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    January 18, 2010

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    Douglas Watts

    The only value in a tactic is its power of persuasion to that group which needs to be persuaded to achieve the goal. Anything you do that turns off the target group to your message, esp. for ancillary reasons, diffuses and weakens the message. The law of unintended consequence then tends to defeat you.

    NTodd

    The target group is generally already predisposed to not receiving your message, which is why you escalate from low-level tactics of protest to psychological, physical and economic interventions.

    Douglas Watts

    Lots of money helps.

    Douglas Watts

    Canvassing is a perfect counterpoint: turns out that research shows for every dozen doors you knock, no matter what the outcome of the specific interactions, you gain a vote. Sometimes getting in people's faces even wins you the right to vote.
    Sure you're going to have negative encounters. That's the nature of social engagement in any context. Yet outreach is fundamentally more constructive and positive overall than doing nothing, which seems obvious to me but I guess it ain't.

    Word. I learned this knocking doors in the poorest parts of Augusta, Maine running for the Maine Legislature. Registered a lot of people to vote who had never voted before.

    mds

    Yeah, uh, perhaps folks could start small. Before taking it to the streets of DC, put their own houses in order first:

    Rather than wholesale elimination of programs, Douglas recommended spreading the pain across a large number of people and programs. An example would be raising deductibles in the Catamount Health insurance program from $250 per person to as much as $1,200, but not throwing people off the program.

    Douglas also proposed going back to a 40 percent capital gains tax exemption, a move that would actually cut state revenues, and rolling back estate tax increases. Both moves together effectively amount to a $9 million tax cut. He does not want to return the top-tier income tax rates that were lowered by lawmakers last year as part of that package, however.

    The governor also would lower some caps and make other kind of reductions for those who receive state services.

    ...

    Legislative leaders responded in kind, offering little or no criticism of the governor's budget proposal.


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    This is just Washington writ small. Stick it to the powerless, but heaven forfend that the rich should have to pay taxes. So how about a civil disobedience dry run focused on Vermont's government?

    NTodd

    Believe me, we're retrenching for focus in VT. My friend Michael Colby has focused primarily on action here, and that's where we're fundamentally going to be working in 2010, including electorally. But DC is a part of the equation and national and state issues/work are not mutually exclusive. Similarly, I won't be giving up on the I/P conflict either. Wherever there is injustice, we try to fight.

    mds
    But DC is a part of the equation and national and state issues/work are not mutually exclusive.

    Oh, definitely. For instance, if DC actually does get all serious about "deficit reduction" right now, states are simply screwed. I wasn't suggesting that you can't walk and chew gum at the same time, NTodd (I've seen the Eschacon videos). I'm just jittery over the fact that on top of everything else, freakin' Vermont has to go and toy with making health care less affordable while cutting taxes on the rich. But as long as Mr. Colby has an ample supply of pitchfork oil ...

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